Vanquishing Question/Advice - Guild Wars Forums

tmr819 · Mar 04, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I have only vanquished a couple of areas, but I find one of the most time-consuming aspects to it is just finding all of the mobs in a given area.

As an example, I cleared out North Kryta Province the other day almost totally but was having a terrible time finding the last couple of guys, including the Caromi Tengu boss Nav Sharpquill, as it turned out. I finally found him located off in a "side pocket" of the region.

My question for people who have done a lot of vanquishing is this:

How do you manage to find everything you're supposed to kill?

I must have run around that entire, cleared region a couple of times before those last couple of red dots showed up on my "radar," which was pretty frustrating.

I am just wondering if there are any good systems people might have for making sure you cover an entire area.

Reaper · Mar 04, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I guess at the end of the day it calls for being thorough in your searching. I generally like to pick a wall and follow it around, and then clean up any voids I may have missed in the middle of the map. I am sure there are more effective ways, but this system has served me well.

The only caveat would be if you know an area of the map has pop-ups. In that case, I tend to avoid it at all costs, saving the area for last.

Usurp · Mar 04, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

On the same vein...how do you know when you have vanquished all of the mobs in an area? Are you notified etc.? Thanks.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 04, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Think about the route you take - it's not 100%, but usually works - and yes, you get notified when you've killed'em all.

KennyC · Mar 04, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

I found it easiest with my mini map open all the time and moved to the middle lsft of my screen(widescreen) You can see where youve been and aint been that way. Also as Reaper suggested - do the outside first, then the voids in the middle.

Good Luck.

Covah · Mar 04, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Usurp

On the same vein...how do you know when you have vanquished all of the mobs in an area? Are you notified etc.? Thanks.

It would look like this
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Wirt · Mar 04, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Usurp, when you finish the game you will have the option for hardmode. When you are in the explorable area, in hardmode, there is a red helmet icon in the top left of the screen with a small number (# of kills) and a progress bar.

Ive found that if there is one pop-up missing, and you happen to be with a real person group, split up everyone in all directions. When a guy gets dead, youve found him. If you are Hero/Henching it, then do the outskirts, then the back and forth lawn mow the area.

tmr819 · Mar 04, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Thanks. I generally go right (hugging the right wall, as it were), and then move counterclockwise through a region in ever-decreasing circles. Usually that works out OK, but sometimes it's easy to miss some little side area or cave or something.

If nothing else, I have gained new appreciation for just how intricate and detailed these regions can be

. You sure don't notice all that's actually there if you just play through the primary quests, even if you do a lot of the secondary quests.

Songbringer · Mar 04, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

I cut the area into sections. I do an entire section then move on to the next one. Usually 2 sections for smaller area 4 for larger.

Or if I need to catrograph the area I will clear the edges out while I scrape. Then i clear the middle out.

Edit: Go to wiki and look at a cleared out map of the section so you can tell where the little passages and places that are easy to miss are

majikmajikmajik · Mar 04, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

i follow the outer border of the area then work my way in, lookin at maps on wiki for mob patrols and such, vanquish and explore titles both at once.

The Way Out · Mar 04, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik

i follow the outer border of the area then work my way in, lookin at maps on wiki for mob patrols and such, vanquish and explore titles both at once.

I was going to suggest the same thing. It takes a lot longer than just a vanquish, however, it saves you time in the end. Hug the walls and kill everything in your map, and then circle back again. I also like bringing at least one running skill that will allow you faster travel. Vanquishing suck when you can't find that one mob... or one person that travels all over the place.

joshuarodger · Mar 04, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

If i'm having trouble finding that last group, i pull up the big map of the region and see if there are any fairly large areas that my trail doesn't cut across or pathways i may have missed, those are the first places i check. I also start out by scraping the borders of the region though.

FXCW · Mar 04, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

I just tend to hug the wall and work my way round, I find that I am missing one or two mobs much more often in Tyria than when I vanquished Elona or Cantha.

Tokar Terrius · Mar 04, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I'd agree with these guys. Work ya way around the outskirts of the zone then fill in the middle.

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 05, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Yep, do the perimeter first and work your way to the center. In the case of patrols, spread out and look that way. When I'm H/Hing, I'll send my henchies out in different directions, paying close attention to where I send them. When one dies, I know where the mob is

Mar 04, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#1
tmr819 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Vanquishing Question/Advice I have only vanquished a couple of areas, but I find one of the most time-consuming aspects to it is just finding all of the mobs in a given area. As an example, I cleared out North Kryta Province the other day almost totally but was having a terrible time finding the last couple of guys, including the Caromi Tengu boss Nav Sharpquill, as it turned out. I finally found him located off in a "side pocket" of the region. My question for people who have done a lot of vanquishing is this: How do you manage to find everything you're supposed to kill? I must have run around that entire, cleared region a couple of times before those last couple of red dots showed up on my "radar," which was pretty frustrating. I am just wondering if there are any good systems people might have for making sure you cover an entire area.

Mar 04, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#2
Reaper Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: We Drink Tequila Profession: Mo/N	I guess at the end of the day it calls for being thorough in your searching. I generally like to pick a wall and follow it around, and then clean up any voids I may have missed in the middle of the map. I am sure there are more effective ways, but this system has served me well. The only caveat would be if you know an area of the map has pop-ups. In that case, I tend to avoid it at all costs, saving the area for last.

Mar 04, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#3
Usurp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The burbs of Atlanta	On the same vein...how do you know when you have vanquished all of the mobs in an area? Are you notified etc.? Thanks.

Mar 04, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#4
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Think about the route you take - it's not 100%, but usually works - and yes, you get notified when you've killed'em all.

Mar 04, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#5
KennyC Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: W/Mo	I found it easiest with my mini map open all the time and moved to the middle lsft of my screen(widescreen) You can see where youve been and aint been that way. Also as Reaper suggested - do the outside first, then the voids in the middle. Good Luck.

Mar 04, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#7
Wirt Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Conscripts of Ascalon Profession: W/	Usurp, when you finish the game you will have the option for hardmode. When you are in the explorable area, in hardmode, there is a red helmet icon in the top left of the screen with a small number (# of kills) and a progress bar. Ive found that if there is one pop-up missing, and you happen to be with a real person group, split up everyone in all directions. When a guy gets dead, youve found him. If you are Hero/Henching it, then do the outskirts, then the back and forth lawn mow the area.

Mar 04, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07	#8
tmr819 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Thanks. I generally go right (hugging the right wall, as it were), and then move counterclockwise through a region in ever-decreasing circles. Usually that works out OK, but sometimes it's easy to miss some little side area or cave or something. If nothing else, I have gained new appreciation for just how intricate and detailed these regions can be . You sure don't notice all that's actually there if you just play through the primary quests, even if you do a lot of the secondary quests.

Mar 04, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#9
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	I cut the area into sections. I do an entire section then move on to the next one. Usually 2 sections for smaller area 4 for larger. Or if I need to catrograph the area I will clear the edges out while I scrape. Then i clear the middle out. Edit: Go to wiki and look at a cleared out map of the section so you can tell where the little passages and places that are easy to miss are

Mar 04, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#10
majikmajikmajik Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SATown~Tx Guild: Guild Hopper! Profession: R/	i follow the outer border of the area then work my way in, lookin at maps on wiki for mob patrols and such, vanquish and explore titles both at once.

Mar 04, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#12
joshuarodger Unbanned Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly Profession: Mo/	If i'm having trouble finding that last group, i pull up the big map of the region and see if there are any fairly large areas that my trail doesn't cut across or pathways i may have missed, those are the first places i check. I also start out by scraping the borders of the region though.

Mar 04, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34	#13
FXCW Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London,UK Guild: Passionate Kiss of Nosferatu Profession: R/	I just tend to hug the wall and work my way round, I find that I am missing one or two mobs much more often in Tyria than when I vanquished Elona or Cantha.

Mar 04, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21	#14
Tokar Terrius Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England Guild: STOP VIRGIN MEDIA! Profession: Mo/E	I'd agree with these guys. Work ya way around the outskirts of the zone then fill in the middle.

Mar 05, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14	#15
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Yep, do the perimeter first and work your way to the center. In the case of patrols, spread out and look that way. When I'm H/Hing, I'll send my henchies out in different directions, paying close attention to where I send them. When one dies, I know where the mob is